July 19, 2010 (12:30 am)

Kamea’s 1st Bath, 1st Cloth Diaper, Cloth Wipes Warmer Rocks!

by Kristen Suzanne

We gave Kamea a bath last week and she didn’t take too kindly to it. My sweet baby girl wasn’t excited (ummm… she’s pissed) – how sad is that picture!?!? I hope they get easier – after all… baths are so awesome, right?! Her belly button is still healing and after it’s good to go, I look forward to bathing with her in the tub together. That might be more fun for her. Although, that seems a bit scary, too! Do any of you bathe with your newborns? Any tips or tricks for it? Kamea is just a little over 3 weeks now.

I also decided to go ahead and try a cloth diaper on Sunday. She’s about 8 1/2 pounds now (she’s gaining weight like a champ!), but her legs are quite skinny. I tried a Kissaluv organic cloth diaper, fitted I think is what it was… supposed to be good for a baby 5-15 pounds. I figured it’d fit great. Well, it wasn’t long until she dirtied it and it was all wet and went through her clothes. It wasn’t a blow out per se, it was just soaked through and she didn’t even have it on that long. I washed it 3 times before using it to increase the absorbency, but maybe I need to wash it more? Or perhaps I need to use a cover over it? I was a tad disappointed and quickly reverted back to my 7th Generation disposables (at least for now). I have not had one problem with those, even when she poops all watery and messy. It keeps it contained. I think I’ll tackle cloth diapers in a couple more weeks… perhaps when she’s a little bigger and I’ve had more sleep. ;)

I also am using organic BabyKicks cloth wipes. The challenge with that is using one hand to get it wet (preferably with warm water at the sink so it’s not cold on her girly bits – this takes time to get the water warm – or with a spray bottle, which requires more than one hand and isn’t warm either). I went ahead on the advice of a good friend and bought this cloth wipe warmer and boy are we LOVING it! It keeps the wipes nice and warm and wet. Ready to use. Many people said I wouldn’t need it, but I’m so glad we bought it and highly recommend it if you’re using cloth wipes (it comes with a few bamboo wipes, but I also use the organic BabyKicks cloth wipes linked above). It only takes a few minutes to get it set up each day.

We have our 1 month check up in about a week and I’m looking forward to that. I can’t wait to see how much more weight she’s gained drinking up her mama’s plant-powered breast milk. It’s been a crazy, long, fun, exciting, and exhausting 3 weeks so far. What an adventure!

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  • http://www.loveveggiesandyoga.com/ Averie (LoveVeggiesAndYoga)

    Cloth wipe warmer…never had one specifically for cloth wipes, but I used a Target one for like 19.99 and that did the trick for my cloth wipes (and disposable wipes when I used those, too). I always made my own wipes solution out of lavender essential oil, water, tea tree oil and saturated all the wipes and kept them in the warmer so when I was changing her, it was grab-n-go. Spray bottles = no time when poop is everywhere!

    Kissaluvs. Yes those are just fitteds and you need a cover! But even so, her legs may still be skinny. I am telling you, Bum Genius 3.0 pockets were my go-to diaper for 18 mos thru many stages of leg chunk or not, belly chunk or not, etc..they always seemed to fit. They are one-size and the elastic around the legs is great for skinny-legged babies, compared to say happy Heiny's which run bigger in the legs, ballerina legs vs. sumo wrestler legs :)

    I could talk cloth diapers for hours, but i will stop :)

    xox

  • http://GreenMommyBlog.com/ Kristen Suzanne

    I could listen for hours :) thx for the tips. I didn't buy bum genius
    but maybe I'll get one to try.

    I figured the Kissaluv didn't need a cover since it was a fitted
    diaper… Or are you “suggesting” it needs one (not that they intend/
    require me to use one)? Either way, I agree with you. I wouldn't use
    it again without one.

    I haven't made my own solution yet but plan on it. I'm looking for a
    recipe so I don't make anything too strong. Meanwhile I bought
    Kissaluvs Diaper Lotion Potion that I dilute with water. It's not
    organic but it's getting me by until I decide what to use next.

    xoxo

  • http://www.thesonneborns.blogspot.com Elizabeth

    Bathing – neither i nor my husband ever bathed with our son as a newborn. we did a sponge type beside our big kitchen sink and it was a cinch. but once he was able to sit on his own and was more ‘sturdy’ of a baby (thats what we called it), we did bathe with him in very shallow warm water. it was nice and he seemed to enjoy it. of course now he’s two and adores bathtime, practically trying to swim in the water, splashing like a maniac, and playing with boats. too fun!!

    For me, I used the 7th Gen diapers till my son was about 9 months old. I was exclusively breastfeeding till he was 6 months, when i then added organic baby veggies and fruits, and also organic brown rice cereal – either store bought or homemade, depending on my time to do such (i went back to work full time when he was 5 month – and yes, my pump was my best friend haha). once he started eating more of those foods though, he poo was not as thin and watery. it thickened up a bit and it was then that I was able to use G-diapers with no problem. I still use those on him occassionally today though we are SO close to being fully potty trained (YAH!!).

    Wipes – thats a great idea to use a warmer! I never did but that would be awesome:) i used either homemade disposables ones (with a mix of lavender oil, water, etc) and some cloth ones I just dipped in warm water. i now just buy the 7th generation wipes to have on hand in case we need them – but rarely do b/c he usually poops on the potty. keyword – usually haha.

    sounds like you’ve done exceptionally well with the breastfeeding. I loved breastfeeding and breastfed my son until he was 17 months old. My goal was 18 months and I am still sad I didn’t push thru one more month:( I hope with #2 I will get to 18 months! fingers crossed! As far as the pumping, I waited till my son was 1 month old and started pumping once a day, putting it in the freezer if my hubby didn’t give it to him in a bottle in the middle of the night (he was so much help!). The pumping did lead to a bit of an oversupply of milk though. I thought that was great (more to store!) but it seemed to also cause a fast and rapid ‘let down’ of milk. my son was a bit pissed off by that haha…. so i had to cut back on pumping and it all sorted itself out just fine!

    The breastfeeding will be effortless after the first couple months. My son was so efficient after 6 months that his feedings were over in 8 minutes TOTAL! 4 minutes for each breast! (every 2-3 hours), I was all worried calling my OB and the Pediatrician, etc. but he was getting more than enough haha.

  • Vee1976

    Hi!
    My sister uses the European Spa Baby which is upright and will simulate the whom more. Her son loved it from the beginning. And just came out with a 100% recycle one. :) http://www.spababytubs.com/
    Take Care.
    -Vee

  • http://www.peacekaleandyoga.com rachael

    Baths get easier before too long. We used prefold diapers with snappi closures when DS was a newborn. He was only 5 and a half pounds and we started using them when he was only a week old and never had any problems with them. We moved to fitted diapers when he was bigger.

  • Kari Schlobohm

    It sounds like things are going well for your family. My little girl is 10 months old now, but I remember very cleary trying to figure out diapers, bathing, etc. We started using cloth diapers when she was one month old. She was only 6 pounds when she was born; so, at a month she was still smaller than Kamea is now. I bought the Bum Genius (they can be used from newborn until out of diapers), and decided I would just try them. Well, they looked HUGE on her, but they worked wonderfully. They worked better for me than the 7th Generation b/c the surface area was larger, and when she would have a blow out, it would contain the mess most of the time…not always. We still use them and love them. They have a wonderful warrenty, which I have used to replace them for free. I did wash them a number of times before use. I followed the directions exactly!

    As far as bathing…..this has continued to be a learning experience for us! I was terrified the first time I gave her a bath. Our midwife told us to place her in enough water to cover her ears and lay her on her back. This made me nervous; so, my husband or I would take baths with her when she was little. Then, we switched her to her own little bathtub that you put in the regular bathtub. And, once she started sitting she didn’t want to be in that anymore; so, I would take a bath with her b/c she would fall over a lot. She has always loved to be in the water, and I think you just have to experiment to find something that is comfortable for both of you. I think the “butterfly’ position sounds like a great idea. I didn’t even think to do this when she was little!!

    Good luck and get some rest!!

  • Jbird8282

    Yes- with fitted diapers you need a cover. They’re not designed to be used without it. The only cloth that DON’T need a cover are the pocket diapers and all-in-ones.

  • Bandora

    Fitted diapers do require covers, if you want to skip the cover look into AIO and AI2 diapers such as pocket diapers, they have a cover built in and you don't have to worry about a 2 step process during a diaper change. The only setback is that AIO's take longer to dry after washing.

    I like using covers because there are so many different types to fit different babies and cute prints plus provided there are no blowouts you can use them several times before needing a wash (just wipe clean in between uses).

  • http://GreenMommyBlog.com/ Kristen Suzanne

    I have some AIO to try but they seem too big for now. I wonder why the
    directions on the Kissaluv package didn't say to use a cover?

  • http://GreenMommyBlog.com/ Kristen Suzanne

    Oh, and I have an AI2 to try as well.

  • Camtim42

    Good Morning :-)

    She looks cute even when screaming! I'm dying to hear about your birth story, tips for recovery, etc. I know you probably don't have time to write very often, but I'm so excited!!! Take care mama!!

  • http://stayingvegan.com Jason

    We tried bathing with Dax, but he didn't care for it too much – the second time was a lot better, so we thought he just needed to get used to it, but then attempt #3 was another noisy disaster… We got one of those tub chair things off of Craigslist for $5 and it's gone a lot better with that – not in the tub but filled with water and sitting on the counter.

  • Karmama

    Congratulations on your beautiful baby! My little girl is almost a year old & it seems like yesterday we were figuring out diapers, bathing etc… It gets less confusing as time goes by! I've bathed with my daughter since her very bath and continue to do so every night. In the beginning it really helped to have my husband kneeling beside the tub to help wash the baby. That way all I had to do was concentrate on holding her. When we were done, He would also remove her and put her in the towel while I got out and dried off. I'm not sure I could have done it without his help.

    Arabella was a tiny baby and we found Swaddlebees organic fitted diapers with Imese Vimse organic covers worked beautifully. Not one blowout or leak! Now that she's older, we use AIOs because she does not stay still long enough for a 2 step process. But the AIO's really didn't fit properly until she was about 5 months. I've never used a diaper solution, just plain 'ole water. But I swear by Earth Mama Angel Baby Bottom Balm or just cocnut oil when her tush needs some love.

    :D

  • Bandora

    I haven't tried Kissaluv but I know that they mention a cover in their diaper description in the website almost in passing. http://www.kissaluvs.com/fitted-diapers.php

    I have noticed that many diaper brands expect the parent to know exactly how to use them which is unrealistic given how many different types of diapers are out there and their differences.

    And yes, AIO's tend to be very big on a newborn, specially the one size kind, I didn't find the expense worth to get a small enough size that would be outgrown so quickly so I have prefolds and covers for the newborn stage.

  • http://GreenMommyBlog.com/ Kristen Suzanne

    Thanks :)

  • http://GreenMommyBlog.com/ Kristen Suzanne

    Ooh! Thanks for the tips!

  • http://GreenMommyBlog.com/ Kristen Suzanne

    My birth story will take some time. It's a long post and right now I'm
    capable of short ones. Sleep is my priority after Kamea is taken care
    of ;)

  • http://GreenMommyBlog.com/ Kristen Suzanne

    Lol and duh (I guess) I should've known to use a cover but I thought
    those for only prefolds. ;)

  • Bethpoetsch

    I used to give them a bath in the kitchen sink. But I also, on occasion, brought them in the bath tub with me. But I’m sure you already found out, they are awfully slippery when they are wet. LOL

  • Tricia

    My son hated baths from day one as well. He really enjoys being in the tub with me. I think when I started doing that (around 3 months) was when he got more comfortable in the water. He just feels more secure with me holding him in the water with me. So that is what we do now. And he likes being able to nurse while we are there.
    You definitely require a cover with a kissaluv or anything that is cloth all the way through! It will leak into the clothes everytime! I actually really like using a cover with a multi layered insert such as a gflapper made with organic bamboo and/or hemp (available at nappyshoppe.com- and made by a WAHM). That way the wetness and mess stays put and doesn’t soak everywhere.
    Also, we used disposable diapers for the first couple of months with our son (people gave us a ton!) and then we started transitioning into cloth diapers closer to two months. Now that I know what I am doing (we had no idea at first, just like you guys!) I feel like I could tackle newborn cloth diapering. It is tricky though because they grow quickly and poop quite a bit.

    You’ll get the hang of it! Some of us just have to learn the hard way, you know!? (experience!)

  • http://taterandkeela.blogspot.com Leslie

    Yes, I have to agree with everyone, every diaper needs a cover unless it is an AIO (All-In-One), no matter the thickness. A cover has that water-proof/resistant material. Bum genius has always worked well on my girl with skinny legs. They seem to be more trim than a lot of other diapers.

    However, another cover you could try is wool. It actually does help to keep cool in the summer and warm in the winter. There are wool covers in natural parentings stores or if you know someone who knits, they can knit you a wool cover. Also, Nova Naturals has a nice wool cover on their site. You have to lanolinize the cover though, in order to keep it water proof, but since wool has anti-germ properties, you don’t have to wash it very often. Something to think about! I can definitely say I’ve been through some “yuck” diaper episodes too! It comes with motherhood I guess. You’re officially in the club now. ;)

    You’re doing great on breastfeeding it sounds like. Good job! Everything takes time with a new baby to learn and get used to. Co-bathing with baby is very nice and does help with bonding and attachment. I didn’t shower, but we did bath when she was younger and when she was fussy, the warm water and togetherness really soothed her.

  • Annalise Jones

    Sit in the bathtub in an elongated “butterfly” position (so your legs are extended, soles of your feet together, knees out to the sides) and put baby's head on top of your feet. Water shallow. This way you can talk and gently splash her. Don't worry about shampoo or soap, that's for germophobes! My daughter is almost 2 and has never had any products on her.

  • http://GreenMommyBlog.com/ Kristen Suzanne

    Thanks for the tips!

  • http://gingeristhenewpink.blogspot.com/ Lauren519

    Aww, that picture makes me sad! Poor little cutie pie!!! I'm sure once she gets the hang of it, she'll love a nice bath.. who doesn't?! Good luck at your appointment!

  • Stacie

    I bathed with my babies (now 13 and 10). My trick was to put two towels on the floor outside the tub–one folded, one spread out. I got the water ready, laid my little naked baby on the the towel, got in the tub and then picked up my baby. After baby is done, I put him or her on the towel, then got up on my knees in the tub and dried and wrapped him or her in the other towel. Then I finished quickly and got out.

    Some notes: WARNING! wet babies are slippery! Also, nursing your baby in a warm tub is a wonderful thing. Afterwards, it's nice to go crawl in bed and cuddle some more as bathing makes little people tired.

    Good luck,
    Stacie

  • Tasha – Thecleatingmama

    I remember my son's first bath! =)
    Please be careful with the wipe warmer. I have heard a lot of situations where they have caught fire because they dried out inside.

  • http://www.facebook.com/stephanie.duboc Stephanie Duboc

    When my son was a new born i just wiped him down with warm cloths. Little babys dont get to dirty. Also nursing her while your in the bath works good to. I have kissaluvs and i put two liners folded together and they work fine

  • Tqoqal

    My daughters both bathed in the tub with me as newborns. My second daughter was born at home so I was able to bath her moments after she was born in an herbal bath that helped heal the birth canal and the cord. It was amazing!

  • http://GreenMommyBlog.com/ Kristen Suzanne

    thanks for sharing :) and for the warning

  • http://GreenMommyBlog.com/ Kristen Suzanne

    good to know!

  • http://GreenMommyBlog.com/ Kristen Suzanne

    Wow! Thank you so much for sharing all of that valuable wisdom with
    us!!! Much appreciated!!!

  • http://GreenMommyBlog.com/ Kristen Suzanne

    I have heard of that… is it used on a newborn though when the baby
    can't hold his/her head up yet?

  • http://GreenMommyBlog.com/ Kristen Suzanne

    Great info. Thank you for taking the time to share.

  • http://GreenMommyBlog.com/ Kristen Suzanne

    Learning the hard way – lol!

  • Jenna

    I just took my babes in the bath with me. And if I did bathe them, I placed a hand towel in the sink to line it, then put the water in. Take it real slow. If they don't like it, no worries. My second only got sponge baths for 6 or 7 weeks after they were born!

  • Teamhendrix

    One of us has always bathed with our little ones. One thing that was imperative for us: Always have the other adult waiting to take the baby from the tub when you're finished (getting out of the tub wet with a newborn is really, really difficult). Such a wonderful time–I'm very glad you're enjoying it!

  • http://veganjoy.blogspot.com veganjoy

    My girl wasn't thrilled with baths, and wouldn't be put down while I showered, and I wasn't going to stop bathing entirely! So I found a shower sling to be indispensable for the first 6 months.

    I think you'll love EC once things settle down a bit–it makes it so much easier to avoid crazy diaper blowouts!

    To speed umbilical healing, goldenseal powder is fantastic. It prevents any oozing, and usually the dried bit falls off (completely healed) in less than 10 days.

  • Stephanie Moors

    my daughter used to hate baths. we took her in the shower with us from the moment her belly button healed. she LOVED being held in the warm (not hot) water. as she got older she just played on the floor of the shower while i got clean. it turned into the easiest solution for all of us. when they are so new and tiny it's a little scary cause they are slippery. but i would just clean her off and then hand her off to my husband and he would dry her off and get her dressed. it's obviously such an individual decision. what works for some people doesn't work for others. so just try everything and stick with what works best for the three of you! :)

  • Lisa Purro

    We've taken our babies into the tub and shower with us right from day one! It's such a nice way to bathe them and so relaxing. In the tub, you can either sit with your knees bent and them in the crook or lay back and let baby lay across your chest–great position for nursing also! In the shower, all three of you can get in together and the parent not holding the baby can use the sprayer and do the soaping and rinsing! :)

  • http://GreenMommyBlog.com/ Kristen Suzanne

    Do you have a link for the sling you used in the shower?

    We did goldenseal. ;) it has helped

    xoxo

  • http://GreenMommyBlog.com/ Kristen Suzanne

    Thanks for sharing and for your support.

  • http://GreenMommyBlog.com/ Kristen Suzanne

    Nice! Thx!

  • Tricia

    Oh yeah, I just remembered something you might like for baths. They are called Puj tubs and I have heard amazing things about them. Here is a little video about them: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_ww5i_DdTM&feat

  • http://GreenMommyBlog.com/ Kristen Suzanne

    Thanks, I'll check it out.

  • http://GreenMommyBlog.com/ Kristen Suzanne

    I hear ya! Thank you! I just used a hemp fitted diaper and used a
    COVER this time. It worked. :) Just after I changed her, she poopied
    big time. lol so it didn't stay on long.

  • http://GreenMommyBlog.com/ Kristen Suzanne

    In the motherhood club – sweet! Love it. Breastfeeding is awesome now.
    Nothing to it. :)

    I will have to try the BumGenius because they're getting such rave
    reviews and should help with her skinny legs. I won't go the wool
    route because we're vegan though. However, thanks for the advice. :)

    Cheers,
    Kristen

  • http://veganjoy.blogspot.com veganjoy

    I just bought 5 1/2 yards of bathing suit fabric at a fabric store (yay discount fabric–it was fluorescent pink, but I didn't care!), and wrapped it like a moby. But I got the idea from this one:
    http://gypsymama.com/shop/proddetail.php?prod=w

    If you prefer a ring style, I've also heard good things about these mesh slings. They're made with Solarveil fabric, so they work for the pool or hot weather too:
    http://taylormadeslings.com/tms/html/catalog.ph

  • http://GreenMommyBlog.com/ Kristen Suzanne

    Do you use a cover?

  • http://GreenMommyBlog.com/ Kristen Suzanne

    Great. Thx!

  • http://www.wherewildstrawberriesgrow.com Indigomumma

    Hey Kristen

    I think you are doing an amazing job. Every change in life takes time to adapt to and this is definitely one of the biggest changes we ever face – entering Parenthood! We bathed DD in a baby bath in the beginning. From early days she used to go in the shower with us, but I didn't start hopping in the bath with her until a bit later I think, for no particular reason, just that we were happy taking her in the shower with us and she enjoyed it. You know – like EVERYTHING with parenting, you will just know when it is right. That is often hard to hear with a first bub and in the early days – but as you will experience more with your DD, you will realise that you just progressively start doing things without even really thinking about them at all and then one day you are in the bath together and think 'oh wow – here we are, in the bath!'… things just progressively happen and you will intuitively just go with things as you are ready for them. I may not be putting this into words well – but it will all just play out for you :) I remember when DD (our first and still only child) was a wee bubba and I was new to parenting, I used to think 'how do I do this, when will I know when it is time to do this, I will have to research how to do that, I don't know how to do this'… but then things just happen and progress and it all just unfolds perfectly as though it is all Divinely guided!

    We used cloth nappies (aka diapers… we're in Australia hence the word 'nappies'!) from birth with DD. We folded them in a particular way that gave extra thickness down the middle – I never found any reference of this technique online – it was shown to us by a midwife and it was the way my mum folded our nappies too. I will post some pics on our blog and send you the link. We always just used washers (cloth flannels) to wipe and used pure paw paw ointment as a nappy rash cream. I am sure you know this, but be aware of what type of paw paw you buy, many have petroleum in them – look for a pure paw paw ointment if you choose to use this. We would just run the hot tap to warm, wet the washer with one hand and wring it out. It is surprising how one handed handy you become! It's a gift that the angels send you when you give birth – that and eye's in the back of your head! :)

  • http://GreenMommyBlog.com/ Kristen Suzanne

    Thanks for taking the time to share. Yes, please send link to photo of
    you nappie folding. ;)

    Love the intuition note. :)

    XO

  • http://robertsonsofmumbai.blogspot.com The Robertsons of Mumbai

    This is all very exciting! :)

  • Deb

    Great responses!….re: bathing together….for us, not at the newborn stage….I was too tired, made me too nervous, baby too slippery when wet….but definetely as my sons got bigger, stronger, sturdier, could sit up and I was less tired…..loved nursing in the tub…..I agree with the comments about progressively just knowing when it is right to do things….first baths were gentle wipe downs on a towel, then in a baby bath thing, then actually adding water to the baby tub thing, which could also later be put in the tub with shallow water, also bathed in the sink once babe could sit up…so much fun! ………you are doing great…and yes…a warm welcome to the Mommy Club :) Deb

  • http://color-so-loud.tumblr.com Kat

    I've heard the Kissaluvs are great for newborns, but yeah, as you know by now, you should use them with a cover. I personally am a die-hard prefold fan. They are really easy and fast to get on with a Snappi, they fit a variety of shapes depending on how you fold them, they are cheap, they last forever (can use as rags well after the baby outgrows them), and they are very forgiving in the wash. We actually do prefolds *without* covers around the house (and no clothes, too, it is very hot here so most of the time she is just in a bib for drool and the diaper). It is nice to have fitteds or prefolds so that there's something on her bottom, but no cover means that her skin can breathe a little more — just gotta be aware for that pee or poop when it comes.

    One of the biggest drawbacks to cloth diapering is figuring out your wash routine — especially if you are trying to use all natural supplies and be eco-friendly. Sometimes they require extra rinses, and sometimes they require heavier duty detergents. There are two big problems you can have with the wash: 1) too much detergent. It builds up, you see soap in the final rinses, the diapers start to not work as well. 2) too little detergent! The diapers stink when they get peed in and there is old pee and fecal matter. Yuck. So finding that balance is key — and it may require a few periods of “stripping” or extra washes to reset your diapers. Too little water may also be an issue — a lot of people prefer top loading machines for diapers because a full tub of water can really help get them clean.

    Just for the record, this is my wash cycle: I have a front loading machine. I do a full “quick wash” cycle with a shot of Bac Out (enzyme cleaner), then a regular hot wash with an extra rinse cycle and unscented Tide (just shy of the recommended amount). They are usually fine to dry after that, but if I see suds on the door I will run another quick wash with noting, or if they smell when I open the door I do a quick cycle with baking soda instead of soap and vinegar in the rinse. And I am the sort of person who washes everything in cold water, uses eco-friendly detergents on clothing/towels, tries to conserve water, etc. But I feel like I have to really show those diapers who is boss and this is the routine that keeps my diapers from stinking.

    They do get poop stains, of course, but I don't worry about that. BF poop stains something awful, but the great thing about it is how easily it comes out in the sun. With an infant, I haven't really challenged myself to get out and use the line, but I will probably do more of that when she is a little older and I am comfortable bringing her into the yard.

    Sorry for the novel, but this is my second time around and I learned everything the hard way the first time! And I was doing cloth diapers in an apartment with coin laundry machines for the first four months of my first daughter's life. It's so nice to have my own machine now, gotta say. Just hoping some of these words would help if you do decide to keep up with the CDing… it sounds challenging but if you go into it prepared for possible problems maybe that will help. I do really enjoy CDing and don't find it to be hard to fit into my daily rhythm. Sometimes we do disposables and that's okay, but I ultimately prefer the functionality of the CDs. There are actually a few forums around the internet specifically dedicated to cloth diapering, people can get kind of crazy about it — but they can also sometimes offer good advice or buy/sell used diapers, which reduces the environmental impact.

  • http://GreenMommyBlog.com/ Kristen Suzanne

    Wow. That's very helpful. Thank you for sharing. :)

  • Sumayyah's Mommy

    Why don't you try Nature Babycare diapers? I absolutely love them, they're biodegradable so I just throw 'em in the compost pile and they RARELY EVER leak! I use a cloth swimming diaper for my daughter so I know the difference in time to clean diapers is huge!! (..especially when they get older and they POOP in huge smelly adult poopie amounts) You can order online or buy from babies-r-us.

    Check 'em out: http://naty.com

  • http://GreenMommyBlog.com/ Kristen Suzanne

    Thx!

  • NANA…

    Well…here is the deal…NANA…wants to give Kamea her next bath…. You know I talk and talk to her…… I do my higher pitched voice and she smiles and smiles. So I will do that and bathe her at the same time… What do you think??? :)

  • http://GreenMommyBlog.com/ Kristen Suzanne

    Sounds good!

  • http://healthandhappinessinLA.blogspot.com Erika @ HH in LA

    One tip about what you shouldn't do when bathing with your baby – my mom has told me a story about when she was told she should try breastfeeding in the bath. It's warm, bonding, bla bla bla. Well I pooped all over her and then she was stuck in the tub with a baby, covered in poop, and quickly getting cold and she said it was quite miserable.

  • http://GreenMommyBlog.com/ Kristen Suzanne

    That's a good story! I know from experience so far that Kamea
    definitely likes to go potty while breastfeeding. Thanks for the tip.

  • http://GreenMommyBlog.com/ Kristen Suzanne

    I'm on their website now. I like what I'm seeing so far :)

  • http://GreenMommyBlog.com/ Kristen Suzanne

    Hhmmm just saw this about their wipes… I'm looking into it more…

    http://www.amazon.com/review/R35BJ9ICG77YAU/ref

  • Renee Dellar

    Hi Kristen – So very happy for you and thank you sooo much for taking the time to share! It's truly invaluable to me! I'm just about 6 months pregnant now and just starting to look into the diaper options (you are right: very overwhelming!) No one is mentioning G-diapers . . . why is that?

    Renee

  • http://GreenMommyBlog.com/ Kristen Suzanne

    On facebook I've had many people say like gdiapers, especially for
    small bums they have a tiny version. I would try them but I have so
    many others still to try. I'm pretty content with waiting til she's
    bigger though because they seem so awkward and almost uncomfy with how
    bulky they are on her. I suppose I should try the tiny gdiapers but
    gosh, I keep buying so much stuff already!

  • Renee Dellar

    I totally get it – just wanted to make sure you didn't know something i should know :) Good luck as you continue on your amazing journey and keep on sharing – we love it!

  • http://GreenMommyBlog.com/ Kristen Suzanne

    Thanks :)

  • Sumayyah's Mommy

    I use an organic cotton burp cloth (they're the PERFECT size for baby/toddler bums — towels are too big and washcloths are too small) and just wash her bum in water every time. Its a bit more time consuming but its one way to guarantee that there will be no diaper rashes. Its cleaner, no toxic chemicals on their bums and you can pat them completely dry between changes.

  • Noura

    I have been bathing in the tub with my son since 3 weeks, he's now 3 months. I just do it when I need to bathe anyway to justify the extra water use- we don't even own a baby tub. I usually sit back and cradle my son's head and neck with one hand, and let him go nuts! He loves splashing kicking off of my belly. Helpful to do a lukewarm tub in the hot summer weather too- I can see instant relief in his face!

  • http://GreenMommyBlog.com/ Kristen Suzanne

    Thanks for commenting.

  • Heather

    First of all, CONGRATS! I love your blog and have been following your pregnancy because we both found out at the same time we were going to be mommies! Stella was born on June 12 and we use cloth. With my son (22 months old) I purchased all sorts of gender-neutral AIO, One size fits all, etc… diapers. I also purchased a few dozen plain old organic unbleached prefolds and covers. Let me tell you… out of all the expensive contraptions, the old fashioned prefolds are my favorite. They are simple to use (I fold differently for boys vs. girls. There are examples online) and I found that they fit better and contained the mess more effectively. I like the one size fits all BumGenius diapers or Blueberry brand once they're a little older. It's great to have a few around for baby sitters and to keep a spare in the car in case the prefold diaper and cover get soiled. I only wish I'd known this before I spent all of the money on fancy cloth diapers. Good luck!

  • http://GreenMommyBlog.com/ Kristen Suzanne

    Ha.. I feel I might be in the same situation. I don't want to think of
    everything I've already spent. ;)

  • Heather

    Oh- I forgot to add how helpful it is to wear your baby. I have a pocket sling and a moby wrap (and I had to watch the online “how to” tutorial several times in a row, but was nursing my son while hiking by the time he was 2 months old.) You're going to love it. I keep the pocket sling in the car for quick trips out. It's way less complicated and cooler (I live in Phx, too) and works great. I tend to wear my newborns in a cradle carry, but I already have my 6 week old facing my chest cross legged in the pocket and we both love it. Of course I have to use 1 free hand to support her fragile head, but it make carrying her around the house SO much easier. And that's critical since I'm busy chasing her 22 month old brother around. The moby is excellent as well, especially to breastfeed in (p.s. when I had my first, I didn't think I'd EVER be able to breastfeed discreetly in public, let alone feed while lying on my side in bed. Trust me when I say that you'll quickly become a pro. It's SO MUCH easier the second time around. Way less stress and worry.) I loved having my son strapped in front of me at nearly my eye level, experiencing our world and being free to interact with others and see what I was up to while we did our daily things. I'd say once they really gain control of their heads it's perfect. And people spoke to him directly when we were at stores and treated him more like a “human” than a little baby in a carseat. Best of luck with everything. You're doing a better job than you know!

  • http://GreenMommyBlog.com/ Kristen Suzanne

    Ugh… babywearing still freaks me out because I just can't seem to get the wraps right. I think I'll wait a few weeks to get into it so I'm not overwhelmed. I've watched videos over and over and I still can't get the moby right. I mean, it kind of works, but she doesn't seem comfy in it and I'm afraid her breathing is constricted a bit because she can't hold her head up enough.

  • Michaela

    Gosh, I tried cloth diapers. Awful. I tried everything and then it dawned on me why 99% of Americans use disposable diapers when cloth is even SO MUCH cheaper. And never mind the diaper rash, irritation and very upset little baby the cloth diapers created. No way! But good luck to you – you might have more luck than I did.

  • http://GreenMommyBlog.com/ Kristen Suzanne

    I'm still using disposables… going to hold off on cloth a while
    longer. ;)

  • Amy

    Hi Kristen,
    I am new to your blog, both green mommy and Kristen's raw. I think you have some amazing advice and that you are an inspiration.
    I have 3 boys ages 7 and under. They are awesome and full of energy. Yes, I have bathed with all of them at some point. I think I waited until they were about 4-6 months just so they were a little more steady.
    As for diapering, I did not use cloth at all with my first, never really thought of it then. I did use cloth diapers for my second and third child. I, however, did not start using cloth until they were at least 6 months old and even then I had to go back and forth. I use Kushies all in one diaper, and gDiapers. I like them both and they both have pros and cons. Currently, I am more of a gDiapers fan over my kushies but I go back and forth with that. Mommy brain will do that :)
    For disposables, I use target brand, seventh generation, and nature babycare. I like the nature babycare just because they decompose within a few months. Best for environment. And sometimes, I just use the regular target brand if we are out and about and I have not ordered any more diapers. With 3 kids, I sometimes get really behind. I use diapers.com for the seventh gen and nature babycare diapers. Our youngest is 19 months so it is much easier to only use cloth diapers at this point vs using them 6 months ago.
    Also, way to go on the breast feeding. I have enjoyed reading about your journey as a mom. Keep up the great work and thank you.

  • http://GreenMommyBlog.com/ Kristen Suzanne

    Awww! Thank you for the kind words and for the advice. :) Much
    appreciated!

  • http://brianandjanet9months.wordpress.com/ Janetdawnkim

    hi!
    i've been following your blog for quite some time. love it!

    our baby is just over 3 months old. i remember being terrified to bathe her at the beginning. we waited for over a week for her first “bath” and we did what a lot of people have recommended- just wiped her down at first. no soap, just water. after her cord fell off, we started bathing her in small amounts of water in a baby tub. i laid a towel down in the bottom of the baby tub and this helped support her little body and it was much easier to give her the bath. i've read the comments about bathing with baby and i'm excited to try that soon!

    we started cloth about a month after she was born. after the cord fell off and after she got bigger. we use cloth during the day and disposable at night- because she goes longer without changes. we use a combination of gro baby all in 2's, g diapers, fuzzi bunz one size, bum genius one size and prefolds with covers. i like them all for different reasons. i like the gro baby and g diapers because i can reuse the covers and just replace the insides. i like the FB and BG because of the ease of them. i like the prefolds because they are so soft and i love the cute covers :) (Gen-y has some super cute covers.)

    i use either water (for pee) or a natural solution (for poo) that i got at “green mountain diapers” online store. i also got the “potty pail” (highly recommend for cleaning poopy diapers before wash- this is more necessary later on when poos are solid- or so i hear…)

    i am a geek and am totally obsessed with cloth diapers and all things related to them- covers, natural wipes solutions, etc…

    my most recent find, though is the baltic amber teething necklace. i know it's early for you- but our baby girl just started teething at 3 months!

    keep up the great work!

    xo,
    janet

  • Elainieking

    I bathed with all my babies (5 of them) from day one (they were waterbirths though) also always nursed them in the tub as well.
    For diapers~ I used disposables when my twins were born 19 years ago until they were about 3 weeks old and I had enough sleep to wash diapers LOL- from there I never looked back and used cloth on the others as well.
    Have used a variety of cloth diapers from hemp prefolds which I loved to AIO's. I liked AIO's for newborns but my babies gained weight so fast~ they grew out of the newborn size in less than a month and I switched over to prefolds once again until they were toddlers and were not gaining weight as rapidly. I did try EC as well……..with my next one I may give that another go….

  • http://www.rawislaam.wordpress.com Umm Safiya

    Hey,

    Love reading your blogs, they're really inspiring :)
    I've bathed with my kids when they were newborn, but only 1 time. I didn't like it. I feel like they slip out of my hands. They're so slippery and smooth.
    I like to wait till they're so big that they can stand up og sit on a little chair instead.

  • http://GreenMommyBlog.com/ Kristen Suzanne

    Great info. Thx!

  • http://brianandjanet9months.wordpress.com/ Janetdawnkim

    oh btw, this website http://www.cottonbabies.com/sale.php is having a sale on bum genius 3.0 one size. (since they've introduced the 4.0, they're clearing their 3.0 stash). it's buy 5 get 1 free, so you get 6 one size great diapers for $87.

  • http://GreenMommyBlog.com/ Kristen Suzanne

    thanks… I'll check if they're organic?!

  • maddy

    When our daughter was born, my husband and I ran into a huge problem with our tub: it was too deep to lean over and bathe her! So, when she was a few days old, I sat in the tub and laid her on my legs with her head nestled on my thighs top and bathed her that way. She loved it – and it was such a breeze to clean up! Even today – 2 years later! (OMG!!) we still have bath/shower time together. I especially love it now that I work all day without seeing her, it's our special time.

  • http://brianandjanet9months.wordpress.com/ Janetdawnkim

    oh, sorry, don't think they are organic :( good question…

  • http://GreenMommyBlog.com/ Kristen Suzanne

    Darn. I heard the 4.0 might be?

  • Lisa

    Hiya,
    I have always bathed with both my babies since birth (they were actually both born at home in the water :) ). I still now often climb in with both of them – one is 5.5yrs and one is 2. Its rare to find one person in the bath in this house unless its me trying for a peaceful bubble bath before they find me :)
    The first couple times i got hubby to pass over the bub when i was in the bath, after that i gained confidence. Young babies typically love being held in warm water, cuddled and nursed, its a great way to settle a fussy little one. You can also lay their heads on chest and let them float their legs and bodies around when they are relaxed. Water is still a very natural medium for young bubs. My DD did have one bath, her first, not in the bath with me and she also screamed and hated it (and traumatized us both LOL). She LOVED baths with me though and we never bothered with anything else after that.

    Cloth nappies, Oh my god this is a huge world LOL. If you are interested join a forum. I'm in Australia and we have a yahoo group called Oz Cloth Nappies ( http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ozclothnappies/). Its a huge list and these girls know their nappies let me tell you. I was an avid poster there years ago and it is an awesome resource (and would welcome you). For a bub Kamea's age i would recommend first up : – feeling up to it, if not then wait a bit, there is tons of time and your on a steep learning curve now as it is :)
    When your ready- When my bubs where that young i used pre-folds which you can get in organic cotton or hemp which is more absorbent and a couple good covers (i use to like tot bots covers for newborns). Covers are an absolute must with newborns (especially with skinny legs :) ). Prefolds are awesome cause they don't require any fancy folds and they are reasonably priced, last for ages and can be used for boosters in fitted nappies and pocket nappies etc when Kamea is older. You can keep them fastened with a nappy snapper or often many of us just folded a prefold in thirds and lay it inside the cover instead. Newborns wee alot so you want something quick and fast and simple.
    Cloth nappies like slings, can become addictive let me tell you – much like shoes :)

  • http://GreenMommyBlog.com/ Kristen Suzanne

    Thank you! :)

  • crookedmoonmama

    Don't have time to read all the comments, so I'm sure it's been said, but yes! The kissaluvs need a cover. My super skinny baby #1 used the kissaluvs fitteds with bumkins covers. They worked great.
    I have only ever bathed with my newborns. I fill the tub about 1/3 full and get in and have my husband hand me the baby. Then we play and wash (I keep a nice warm washcloth on her the whole time- rewetting it so she stays warm). I am also weird that I usually don't bathe the babies until about 4 weeks or so. I like to let the vernix they're born with settle into their skin.
    Baby #1 – Not so into baths, a;ways had to eb nursing during bath time.

    Baby#2 – liked baths but NOT when the water got on her head…no sir.
    Baby#3 – LOVES bath time with mommy…then again she was born in the water, so maybe that's why. :)
    Have fun!

  • http://GreenMommyBlog.com/ Kristen Suzanne

    Call me crazy? I don't see them using a cover for their Kissaluv here… http://www.zoolikins.com/kissaluvs-cotton-fitte

  • Sara

    Since you've previously blogged about your interest in EC, I'll recommend the Simply Cloth cover from theecstore.com with Green Mountain Diapers infant prefolds. The cover is a single layer of PUL and is cut very trim, more like underwear. Since there's no lining inside, you can easily wipe it clean. If you are catching poops in the potty or the potty bowl and you can tell soon after Kamea wets, these are a good option. They're inexpensive and made by a WAHM, too.
    We EC with our 3 mo. old son and these are our favorite for cloth diapering. We still use disposies at night and when we leave the house.

  • http://GreenMommyBlog.com/ Kristen Suzanne

    Thanks!

  • Iguana187

    Hi Kristen,

    My sister just sent me a link to your blog and I'm having fun finding my way around. One question about the wipe warmer… I was thinking of getting one with my 1st daughter but someone said they promote the growth of bacteria because of the warm, wet environment. Have you heard anything about this or experienced any issues?

    Thanks!

  • http://GreenMommyBlog.com/ Kristen Suzanne

    Hi,

    I make enough wipes to last about 24 hours so they don't stay in there

    very long. I wash the sponge thing that comes with it every week, as

    advised. I've not had any issues with that. I absolutely love that

    thing. :)

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